Tim Stafford is senior writer for Christianity Today and has written The Adam Quest (Thomas Nelson, 2013). This book highlights the life, work and views
of eleven scientists who are believers.
Thankfully, the first three are creationists (Creation In Six Days =
CISD, YES = Young Earth Science, Global Flood).
Chapters 1-3 cover the stories of Kurt Wise, Todd Wood and Georgia
Purdom.
Stafford is misinformed in that not all geologists buy
into OEF’s – Old Earth Fallacies (p. 2).
Some YES supporters don’t want to be outed (as in Expelled with Ben Stein). Geologist
Steven Austin has superb credentials. Austin’s research on nautiloids in the Redwall
Limestone of Grand Canyon and its catastrophic origin is unassailable. A recent survey of 312 leaders of Christian
colleges and universities showed that 57% of Science Dept. chairs support Young
Earth Science (YES)‼
Stafford’s parents were open to the view that Noah’s
Flood was local (p. 3). In contrast,Sacred
Cows in Science, edited by Norbert Smith (Ph.D. Zoology, Texas Tech), who
appeared in a BBC documentary, has one chapter that defends the Global Flood. Dr.
Smith’s book covers many worldview issues (climate change, ID, gay marriage
etc.). Smith recently appeared on Today’s
Issues (AFR radio), it starts at the 32:00 minute mark.
Tim’s parents were “not dogmatic about details of God’s
creation” (p. 3), but Jesus was:
“from the beginning of the creation, God made them
male and female” (Mk 10:6). Adam and Eve
did not arrive billions of years after the start (Ge 1:1).
"These are going to be hard days - nothing like
it from the time God made the world right up to the present … (Mk 13:19,
Msg). Human suffering & the
beginning both map to the start (no gap of billions of years).
“The blood of all the prophets shed from the
foundation of the earth, from Abel to Zachariah…” (Lk 11:50,51,
Philips). Prophets and the Beginning are
not separated by billions of years.
Stafford should follow the example of Intelligent Design
(ID) pioneer Phillip Johnson (pp. 3, 70-72) who went to the Creation Museum
(KY), accepts the possible change of fundamental constants (just like the RATE
team) and went on a speaking tour with Flood Geologist Andrew Snelling in the
UK. How many of the scholars in Adam
Quest (other than the first 3) have gone to the Creation Museum? ID leader William Dembski now accepts the
Global Flood!
I’m glad Stafford has decided to “pay closer attention”
to origins (p. 3). I would recommend the
following:
1) read Coming to
Grips with Genesis – Mortenson and Ury
3) watch the Ken Ham v. Bill Nye debate.
Additionally, I hope Stafford reads Persuaded by the Evidence which contain the testimonies of 37
scientists and scholars who became convinced of the traditional creation
WorldView.
Microbiologist Bob Messing (p. 3), who is struggling with
crevo, should contact Nathan Jeanson (Ph.D. Cell & Dev. Biol., Harvard) and
Jeffrey Tomkins (Ph.D. Genetics, Clemson).
They are currently doing research at the Institute for Creation Research
(icr) that supports the fixity of kinds.
Kurt Wise had a discussion with Stephen Jay Gould (d.
2002) who made an astonishing admission, “If what you are saying is true, then the
Bible’s story about a Flood may be true, and that God who punished sin is
likely still alive” (p. 18, emphasis added).
If only Gould had investigated the Scripture more deeply.
Stafford claims that “Conventional geologists and
paleontologists have shown no detectable interest in the theory [Flood
Geology], except to heap it with scorn” (p. 22). In contrast, Stokes and Lee state in their
Geology text Introduction to Geology
(pub. by Prentice-Hall), that, "A catastrophist might contend that the
twisting and breaking of strata, the transportation of huge blocks of rock, the
violent cutting of canyons, and the wholesale destruction of life is within the
power of a great universal flood - and he would be right." [1] Stafford’s objection regarding fossil order
has been dealt with in an earlier post (Dec. 2010).
Here are some Ph.D. scientists in Geology (or Earth
Sciences) who hold to the Global Flood:
Of course, this list could be extended if we include
Geophysics and Paleontology. Terry
Mortenson has a Ph.D. in the History of Geology from Coventry University (UK).
Stafford, who favors “Theo Evo” - theistic evolution (p.
205), should have spoken with professors of History of Science and Philosophy
of Science. Many of them freely confess
that evolution is not proven. Consider
the words of David B. Kitts (d. 2010)who was a Professor of History of Science
(and Geology) at the University of Oklahoma:
Evolutionary theory compels us to see the fossil record
as evidence of evolution. The paleontological record supports evolutionary
theory if you presuppose evolutionary theory. It is consistent with
evolutionary theory, but it does not compel us to accept evolutionary theory.
The fossil record is consistent with an astronomical number of theories
[including traditional creation]. The fossil record does not prove evolution;
nothing proves evolution. Evolution is a scientific hypothesis.
Kitts was no creationist and in fact debated Duane Gish
and Henry Morris in 1973.[2] Furthermore, hundreds of scientists have signed the
Dissent from Darwin list. It is likely that thousands of scientists reject
evolution, but only a portion of those are willing to admit this publicly. Slaughter
of the Dissidents documents the tragic consequences of those who have.
Stafford seems to think that baraminology is a new thing
(p. 23). Frank Marsh (Ph.D. Plant Ecology,
Univ. of Nebraska) actually coined the term baramin
in 1941. Marsh corresponded with leading
evolutionist Theodosius Dobzhansky (d. 1975) in 1945 defining the limits of the
Genesis kinds. [3]
Stafford breaks down the major views on origins as
follows (p. 7):
1) Young Earth
Creationist. We prefer OPGHN (“opgane”)-
Orthodox Protestants who take Genesis
as Historical Narrative. This term was
inspired by Harold Lindsell who said, “Believers in the view that Scripture and
the Word of God are synonymous can always use an alternate label such as Orthodox Protestant …” [4]
2) Intelligent
Design Creationist. ID also includes
atheists who doubt or deny evolution.
The term creationist should be dropped.
Even Clinton Richard Dawkins admitted that ID is possible (in the film Expelled).
3) Evolutionary
Creationist. A better term would be
“Theo Evo.” Sadly, theistic evolution is
still popular among Christian academics.Francis Schaeffer said Theo Evo is not
an option,
… I will now mention two limits that seem to me to be
absolute. … The Bible gives a specific limitation: Adam was created by God, and then Eve was
made from Adam by God. … I have never heard anyone holding any form of theistic
evolution who follows these two limitations [the 1st was that bara means original creation]. …even if
I were still an agnostic, as once I was, I would not accept the concept of
evolution from the molecule to man in an unbroken line. …this concept is weak
and certainly has not been proven … [5]
Is rejecting the traditional creation view going down the
“path of ungodliness” (p. 2)? Charles
Templeton worked with Billy Graham in the 1950’s and preached to thousands (up
to 30K). Both Templeton and sociobiologist E.O. Wilson credit evolution for
their walking away from the Lord. Look at
Princeton Seminary, look at Davis A. Young (DAY=yom) – the slippery slope is
real. Young once held to a Global Flood
(a tranquil flood).
As a clear and present example of the Slippery Slope
Syndrome, let’s examine Fuller Seminary.
At the beginning, Fuller was influenced by these scholars: Carl F. H. Henry, Harold Lindsell (The Battle for the Bible), Gleason
Archer (Encyclopedia of Bible
Difficulties) and Charles Woodbridge, to name a few. [6]
Does taking a weak stand on the authority of Genesis lead
to other errors? Consider this bold
stance from Harold Lindsell:
The simplest reading of Genesis and the rest of the Bible
makes it plain that Adam and Eve are regarded as historic personages and the
first parents of the human race. The
genealogical tables include them, and their sons and grandsons are named as
though they too were real persons. When
critics declare that the biblical accounts here are myth or saga and not real
history, they are allowing extrabiblical data and personal opinions or
hermeneutical dodges to sit in judgment on the Bible. [7]
Gleason Archer said, “… The Battle for the Bible has put its finger upon the most urgent
issue facing evangelicals today [inerrancy] …” [8] Gleason Archer supports a global flood!
Lindsell’s prediction from the 1970’s still holds:
I asserted that once an institution surrenders biblical
inerrancy it will sooner or later scrap other basic doctrines of the Christian
faith. I asserted in the 1976 book [The Battle for the Bible] that it has
already happened at Fuller. … I also
said that down the road, Fuller Seminary will make further concessions and
allow for other more marked departures from historic orthodoxy. [9]
Is the slippery slope a reality at Fuller? Richard Mouw, former President of Fuller
Seminary, spoke this shocker,“While I am not prepared to reclassify Mormonism
as possessing undeniably Christian theology, I do accept many of my Mormon
friends as genuine followers of the Jesus whom I worship as the divine Savior.”
Recently, Fuller officially sanctioned an openly homosexual student group (OneTable)! What’s next in the slide downward?
If Genesis fails to teach us the truth about origins,
then where else has the Bible deceived us?
Give careful thought to this wisdom from Francis Schaeffer:
… from Barth onward they [theological liberals] tried to
say that you could have a Bible with mistakes in it, and yet a religious word
broke through. The older theological
liberals pressed this; so they went from Barth to Brunner, to Niebuhr to
Tillich to the “God is Dead” theology.
Just when it was proven bankrupt on the side of the liberals, some
evangelicals seem to think that they’ve found something new, which is a bit
curious. [10]
How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the
Lord,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it
falsely?
The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and
trapped.
Since they have rejected the word of the Lord, what kind
of wisdom do they have? (Jer. 8:8, 9, NIV)
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Notes
1) Introduction to
Geology: Physical and Historical by William Lee Stokes and Sheldon Judson (Prentice-Hall,
Inc., Englewood Cliffs, NJ, 1968),p.296.
2) Creation:
Acts, Facts, Impacts ed. by Henry Morris et al (Creation-Life
Publishers, San Diego, CA, 1974), pp. 1, 40, 41.
3) Variation and Fixity in Nature by Frank
Marsh (Pacific Press, Mountain View, CA, 1976), pp. 36, 37.
4) The Bible in the Balance by Harold
Lindsell (Zondervan, Grand Rapids, MI, 1979), p. 321, emphasis in original.
5) The Complete Works of Francis A. Schaeffer,
Vol. 2, 2e (Crossway, 1996), pp. 136, 137.
6) Reforming Fundamentalism: Fuller Seminary
and the New Evangelicalismby George M. Marsden (Eerdmans, 1987), p. 1.
7) Lindsell, p.
285.
8) “The Right
Battle” by Gleason Archer in Lindsell, p. 356.
9) Lindsell, p.
184.
10) Francis Schaeffer: An Authentic Life by Colin Duriez
(Crossway, Wheaton, IL, 2008), p. 206, from an interview in 1980.
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